Hey guys! Caitlyn here with our new discussion post The Truth About Books! In case you forgot, we'll be changing post titles every week between The Truth About Books and The Thing About Books!
Be warned though there ARE SPOILERS from the books we discuss!!!
This week we discussed.....
~Dreamless and Goddess by Josephine Angelini~
(its very scattered and all over the place...sorry but that's just how me and Taherah role)
Taherah Abbas
I absolutely LOVED
Dreamless and Goddess by Josephine Angelini!
Caitlyn Crowe
I KNOW!!!!! I
loved the plot line and how it followed the Illiad.
Taherah Abbas
I didn't even
know that it followed it THAT much till later. I think it's cool that it did
though!
Caitlyn Crowe
Well that's what I
loved about Goddess how you started to see all the characters come forward and
see who they were supposed to be (besides Helen and Lucas...that one was
obvious).
Taherah Abbas
Oooh yes everything
just came back full circle (well to an extent at least)
Caitlyn Crowe
Okay, but in
dreamless I was so SO.....well not irritated but... heartbroken I mean it was
obvious Helen and Lucas had to be together even just as friends they had to be
in each others lives or they would spiral (which they did) and UGH I reread
Starcrossed after Dreamless and I realized DAPHNE TOLD THEM A LIE AND THAT THEY
WEREN'T COUSINS AND UH!!!!
Taherah Abbas
I kinda get
Daphne...well not really. She's super annoying. Smart i'll give her that, but she
just messed up everything.
Caitlyn Crowe
I
know it was annoying how she thought she had to control and manipulate everyone
like...no. And all their misery normally its just bad communication but damn
this time it was all her fault!
Taherah Abbas
All just so she could get whats his face back! I
mean seriously I get it in the beginning of what people would go through for
love but its been YEARS. I don't want to be mean and say get over it but you
may as well have just been a good mother. It's the least she could have done.
Caitlyn Crowe
Ajax
Taherah Abbas
Right sorry his name got
lost in all the others
Caitlyn Crowe
I know!!! She messed up everyone
else's lives and HELEN'S and she thought that somehow Helen would HELP HER when
it was over!!!!!!!! NO!!!!!! Sweetie the world DOES NOT work that way!!! I get
it he is the love of your life but DAMN!!!!!
Taherah Abbas
I just wish she did things differently. I mean I
don't hate her because I know Helen would have done the same for Lucas
Caitlyn Crowe
Thats very true... but come on
she could have just...asked. People do that sometimes. ANYWAYS we should talk
about Dreamless before we get more into this.
Taherah Abbas
Dreamless was heartbreaking. Absolutely
heartbreaking
Caitlyn Crowe
I mean the entire time it was one big cry after
another! You thought you had gotten over something like Helen not sleeping, or
Hector being banished (I forget the word...), or HELEN AND LUCAS NOT TALKING
AND ALWAYS FIGHTING AND AAAAHHHHH (I'm good now) but then it would just come
back and slap you in the figgin face again!
Taherah Abbas
Hector=Outcast. And YES especially in the beginning
when Lucas took his dad's advice and totally ignored and gave Helen the cold
shoulder.
Caitlyn Crowe
Ugh and then the whole
jealous/suspicious of Orion thing and Shadowmaster and robbing museums! I mean
DAMN Lucas!
Taherah Abbas
grins sheepishly I thought it was kinda
funny when everyone found out who Orion was plus you know him being compared to Adonis
was hilarious. Lucas was soooo close to hurting something :)
Caitlyn Crowe
starts laughing uncontrollably OMG THAT
WAS THE BEST!!!!!!!! HOLY CRAP I thought Lucas might actually kill Orion!!! XD
OH and when Helen saw them in the vision cracks up ooh my gosh that
was funny!
Taherah Abbas
DUDE and when
she and Orion would text and she would laugh and Ari was like who was
that? sigh Loved those moments
Caitlyn Crowe
Oh those were good too and how
no one believed he was a good guy! Like JEEZ he goes through friggin hell with
her! How bad can he really be??
Taherah Abbas
.__. That was annoying, Like sheeesh they made the
tyrant seem like such a bad person
Caitlyn Crowe
RIGHT!?!?! AND WHEN I FIGURED OUT IT WAS HELEN I WAS
LIKE "ASSFHKSKMDNHJAHVDHAKBA" Whyyyyy it was sooooo meannnnnnn
and then Claire and Matt and Ari and I was like NO because HECTOR AND dies
in a puddle of tears and emotion
Taherah Abbas
shaky voice Claire's betrayal hurt the
most. She drove a knife through my heart. Then there's Hector tries to
control tears who is my favorite character. The character I admired and
adored the most. It's just too much
Caitlyn Crowe
I KNOW!!!!!! I even KNEW it
was coming and I STILL DIED!!!! AND THEN when Lucas traded himself because he
didn't think Helen LOVED HIM AND NOOOOO
Taherah Abbas
What Lucas did?
Incredibly
selfless and stupid. Thats the one loose end I want to see cut
Caitlyn Crowe
It was tragic and idiotic and I mean
seriously Lucas? But I loved the way Helen got him out of it XD
Taherah Abbas
Lol yeah ;) Helen's
gift of creating worlds is super cool too
Caitlyn Crowe
I know!!! Totally was not expecting that
and the fact that Hades had been training then was awesome!!! Usually Hades is
the bad guy but this time not even! Hades is AWESOME
Taherah Abbas
Hades is the bomb. He actually usually is
in other books
Caitlyn Crowe
OOO
yes like in that scene where Helen goes down (with Lucas's help big
grin) and asks to be let in after being kicked out for saying they would
free Persephone!
Taherah Abbas
kinda remembers scene not really
Caitlyn Crowe
Umm its right after Orion and Helen
get kicked out after talking to Persephone and Helen then figures out that it was
Lucas who robbed the museum and distracted Ares and he gives her the obol and
she goes down and meets Morpheus and then goes under the tree of nightmares to
talk to Hades and she realizes he looks like Orion or something and that Hades
is really compassionate
Taherah Abbas
THIS IS DREAMLESS?
Caitlyn Crowe
yeeeesss????
Taherah Abbas
Oooh that explains why I don't remember much. I need to reread that book
Caitlyn Crowe
You should, I'll let you borrow it
later
Taherah Abbas
K though the one thing that
irritated me during Goddess was when it became known Helen was the Tyrant and
Lucas got hurt and then she took him to her world and they just stayed there!
People were getting worried! It didn't help at all that Tyrant was supposed to
be bad and Helen didn't even think about actually showing everyone that he was
safe. It was annoying >.<
Caitlyn Crowe
Yeah but it was kinda a needed break
from all the drama. I hate how once everyone figured out Helen was the Tyrant
NO ONE but Orion, Cassie, Lucas, and Hector wanted to stand by her side! I mean
seriously! She didn't change at all and yet they still judged her on something
she couldn't control!! What the HELL!!!!
Taherah Abbas
RIGHT?! I do understand
Noelle's worry though considering everything. A break might have been needed
but I do feel like Helen should have taken the time to explain everything
earlier than she did in the book
Caitlyn Crowe
I
think Helen should have made it so time didn't pass and people shouldn't have
assumed so much about her from a half destroyed prophecy that has proven to not
be entirely accurate
Taherah Abbas
That I approve of
Caitlyn Crowe
oh god though, when Lucas died I was
so damn heartbroken (well he didn't die but still)
Taherah Abbas
In the Helen is Tyrant scene?
Caitlyn Crowe
nods
Taherah Abbas
Is it bad that I my heart didn't quite break as much as it
did for Hector?
Caitlyn Crowe
No it definitely broke more for
Hector because....Hector
Taherah Abbas
That is a YA fictional death I
will NEVER forget. I was basically on the verge of tears
Caitlyn Crowe
Me too and with what's her name?? The
siren girl! Oh I felt so bad!!!
Taherah Abbas
ANDIE! Let's talk about her!
And yes omg it was so sad!!! They should have fallen in love (they kinda
already were), get married, have little Hectors running around. IT WOULD HAVE
BEEN SO CUTE
Caitlyn Crowe
OMG I WANT A LITTLE HECTOR WHERE CAN
I BUY ONE!!!!!!
Taherah Abbas
The surf shop?
Caitlyn Crowe
????
Taherah Abbas
Hector loves water. Thats the
only place I could think of
Caitlyn Crowe
...moving
on....Andie is adorable I was so sad when Hector saw her and was like INSTALOVE
and she was like "stay the f away from me you creep"
Taherah Abbas
Lol I kinda found it hilarious
(on Hector's part. I understand why Andie was like that) :) Though I
totally ship them
Caitlyn Crowe
YES!!!!!!!!! Omg you know who I ship
sosososososoooo much???
Taherah Abbas
WHO? never mind I know the answer to that...
Caitlyn Crowe
ORION AND CASSANDRA
Taherah Abbas
Thought so :P
Caitlyn Crowe
:)
Taherah Abbas
And I don't ship them as much. Don't get me
wrong they're cute and all but age difference has always been a thing that
really downgraded a ship like Dimitri and Rose
Caitlyn Crowe
...yeah
well age is just a number :P plus
its NOT like Dimitri and Rose, they are only like 3 or 4 years apart
Taherah Abbas
5-6 years. Adrian and her were 3 years so I was cool with
them
Caitlyn Crowe
umm I'm talking Orion and Cassie not
Dimitri and Rose....that one was kinda...much
Taherah Abbas
Right sorry! How old is he anyways?
Caitlyn Crowe
Isn't he like the same age as Helen
and Lucas?? Like 17 or so??
Taherah Abbas
I have no idea...oh well...but
yeah they do make a cute couple. I really liked the way Goddess ended and how
everything cooled down.
Caitlyn Crowe
:) yeah
Sorry our conversation ended so abruptly again! We just don't want to stop!
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What did you guys think about the Starcrossed Series? Didn't like, liked, loved?
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